Lord Coe’s Ancestor Was A Sex Abuser Of Slaves In Jamaica

[evanovitch]

I don't think he knew he was black

so u NOT on Tropic ignore list…thought u were…she answered u….so u not… i continue to wonder who she hopes to entertain, as in engage in conversation, with her posts…the foreigners not answering her n the few Jcans who remain n post, she seems to have them on ignore….cannot help but be border line fascinated by her psyche….still wondering if she is the really who is pictured at that funeral she supposedly attended n wen asked denied she was the poster Tropi…that is one conversation i remember from my early days on this site

[RichD]

People really need to study history before they fly off their mouths and make fools of themselves.

Then where it the title Lord coming from. Are there poor Lords?

Baroness Scotland: "Born in 1955 in Dominica, the 10th of 12 children, Scotland came to Britain when she was two and was raised and state-educated in Walthamstow, London."

[Tropicana]

What are you babbling about. I am referring specifically to Lord Coe who YOU claim was as poor a a church mouse before becoming an athlete. Your comment is totally out of line and irrelevant. Clearly he was not born in Dominica or he would not have been surprised by the Caribbean connection.

[RichD]

What are you babbling about. I am referring specifically to Lord Coe who YOU claim was as poor a a church mouse before becoming an athlete. Your comment is totally out of line and irrelevant. Clearly he was not born in Dominica or he would not have been surprised by the Caribbean connection.

so when you asked "are there poor lords?" that was a specific question to do with Lord Coe?


Lord Coe's father was an engineer he grew up in a middle class family ..he did not come from wealth

[Tropicana]

...so I ask again...and he came to be a Lord how?

[RichD]

...so I ask again...and he came to be a Lord how?

the same way Baroness Scotland came to her peerage

politics

himself and The baroness are what is referred to as" life peers" these are political titles which cannot be passed down.

it similar to being appointed a Senator in Canada ( the house of lords is the upper house of parliament)

[Tropicana]

Gotcha.

[blugiant]

White people always want to feel proud of their ancestors' conquests and "accomplishments" while discounting the shameful aspects of their history as "nothing to do with them". Either you own it all or none at all.

wat mekk mii laff iss wen oyinbo claim to be afrikkans fe justeefii dem xxploitation aff afrikkans

wandar iff imm was wan aff dem funnee lords dat practice buck breakinn

[lonewolf]

I am only following on on an argument you supported.

in the article you posted the author was claiming that white sensibility was shaped by the industrial revolution and the renaissance and so on..while black sensibility was shaped by their African heritage. so since you so wholeheartedly agreed with the opinion it is for you to explain why only some parts of their heritage sape their sensibility while other parts do not

I'd be more than happy to explain, but first give me the link to the topic. Refresh my memory as to when this took place and I'll post an honest explanation. I'm not doubting your word, just can't recall the topic.

[lonewolf]

wat mekk mii laff iss wen oyinbo claim to be afrikkans fe justeefii dem xxploitation aff afrikkans

wandar iff imm was wan aff dem funnee lords dat practice buck breakinn

No different than you claiming to be a victim of slavery and exploiting those that were actual slaves?

[RichD]

I'd be more than happy to explain, but first give me the link to the topic. Refresh my memory as to when this took place and I'll post an honest explanation. I'm not doubting your word, just can't recall the topic.

here is the topic

http://www.jamaicans.com/forums/showthread.php?138273-Burn-Ferguson-Burn-a-must-read

this is one particular concept he is pushing( and you appear to support ):

The races spring from utterly different cultures. Compulsory integration is thus a form of social imperialism in which whites try to force blacks to conform to European norms. Blacks have no historical connection at all to Greece, Rome, the Old Testament Hebrews, Christianity, the Middle Ages, the Enlightenment, Industrial Revolution, to Newton, LaGrange, or Galois, to the philosophic tradition of Thales, Aquinas, Schopenhauer, or Hegel. Nor do Eurowhites have roots in Africa. No commonality exists.

[lonewolf]

here is the topic

http://www.jamaicans.com/forums/showthread.php?138273-Burn-Ferguson-Burn-a-must-read

this is one particular concept he is pushing( and you appear to support ):

Originally Posted by RichD
I am only following on on an argument you supported.

in the article you posted the author was claiming that white sensibility was shaped by the industrial revolution and the renaissance and so on..while black sensibility was shaped by their African heritage. so since you so wholeheartedly agreed with the opinion it is for you to explain why only some parts of their heritage sape their sensibility while other parts do not

Gotcha! (Burn Ferguson Burn) But I don't get your point as that relates to this topic, or why someone(Lord Coe) should feel responsible or regret for something that they didn't do. I understand how you have come to the conclusion, but still find the arguement utterly rediculous and without any merit for the most obvious reason. Person did not exist in the grand scheme of all things, so how could they possibly be responsible in any remote way?

It flys in the face of reason and common sense. So, what you are saying is that your African heritage overides all laws of reason...metaphysical realism?

[RichD]

Gotcha! (Burn Ferguson Burn) But I don't get your point as that relates to this topic, or why someone(Lord Coe) should feel responsible or regret for something that they didn't do. I understand how you have come to the conclusion, but still find the arguement utterly rediculous and without any merit for the most obvious reason. Person did not exist in the grand scheme of all things, so how could they possibly be responsible in any remote way?

It flys in the face of reason and common sense. So, what you are saying is that your African heritage overides all laws of reason...metaphysical realism?

i have not made any argument of the kind...i am just following on on the line of reasoning you put forward. if as claimed white way of thinking today generations later is shaped by things they had noting to do with (like industrial revolution) why would i be off in asking if they way of thinking is no shaped by slavery and slave ownership?

[lonewolf]

if as claimed white way of thinking today generations later is shaped by things they had noting to do with (like industrial revolution) why would i be off in asking if they way of thinking is no shaped by slavery and slave ownership?

Ok, I now understand your point.

[RichD]

so u NOT on Tropic ignore list…thought u were…she answered u….so u not…

is only because cannot put Moderator on ignore list